she talks about harry reid which did take me off on "meet the press" saying i don't know if i'll vote for the assault weapons ban. i didn't last time because it didn't make sense. what? >> it made sense enough to work. >> didn't make political sense. >> stephanie: right. what do we do about those democrats? >> well, i mean, essentially they have to be continually called out. the reality is that if you look at the numbers if you look at the nra gives you an "a" rating, how well do o you fair, it is almost meaningless if not detrimental. >> stephanie: somebody made that point. however high percentage of people they supported lost. stop being scared of them. >> and most smart gun owners like i said, my dad has a lot of guns. and is technically a member of the nra but doesn't have any interest in having an anti-tank weapon. so they don't really send him the literature all the time. >> stephanie: let me finish what joan says. hymn it is the art of the possible. [ ♪ battle hymn of republic ♪ ] she says the point of leadership is to lead. as we saw with gay marriage when the president ta